Number of venues

[ericd]

How many venues do we want to have?
we have 2, but we are likely to need more for drawing more people.
We can work with Charlotte or create VSS's for other venues to run them for the Feature game.

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[kat]

I believe that Doc is planning on running a Werewolf game that Friday night.

[ericd]

To draw the club, we are going to need to draw on sanctioned material.

My recommendation
friday afternoon Garou
Friday evening sabbat
saturday afternoon mage
saturday evening cam/anarch

And that leaves out Requiem, Geist, forsaken, and Lost.
Requiem is an equally hot draw for many.
I was considering putting together something for that.

But you can see we need to know how many game slots we want to put together.

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[jasonb]

Sounds great, Eric. Let's get it together- I'd be surprised if we're not behind the eight ball in regards to getting this in on time as it is. Any way I can help?

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[ericd]

Once we know how many game slots we have to work with it will give us a better idea of what we need to do.

I know we are going to need quite a bit of help.

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[kat]

Eric, these are great ideas. I think they would be great for discussion at the next planning meeting for the FGotM. As far as Friday evening goes, however, Doc was planning on paying for an extra venue and hosting Garou at Fitzpatricks to give out of town folks a place to go. Our domain funds are being stretched to the limit just paying for a Saturday venue and we wanted to make sure folks had a place to go and at least hang out on Friday night with something to do.

As most of us work on Fridays during the day, an afternoon Garou game would not work. I'm not sure that any Friday afternoon game would work, but I'm open to hearing your ideas on it.

We do need quite a bit of help, as Jeanine has been requesting. Please drop her an email or PM her on the board if you would like to be a part of the planning commitee. I'll get with her and have her post when the next Feature Game meeting will be.

[jasonb]

Kat, an afternoon Garou game *would* work for a fair number of us, so I'm really not certain who this 'most' is. Or, at least, an afternoon game of some sort, even on Friday. Also, as the Friday games will likely be a lower draw, doing them at someone's house would be perfectly feasible, reserving the domain funds for Saturday's two-game bonanza at Fitz's.

I'd just ask that generalizations be put up to a vote rather than thrown out wholesale. You do not *know* that Friday afternoon won't work for a good number of players. You do know that it won't work for you and Doc, but this is a Domain event.

Also, we *really* need to speed this process up. Multiple meetings and all decisions made in committee will almost guarantee that this bid isn't in on time, I'd think, because nothing good *ever* comes out of committee. Just ask Congress.

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[ericd]

I have been in communication with Jeanine on all my items.
I did not come to the planning committee meeting as I was told it was the coordinator side of things. I am assuming that I will be helping run the various venues and notified I was not needed yet at the meetings. Since that is a different side of the fence, so to speak. However, to plan anything we need to know what we are planning for.
No numbers have been set for what we need for funds, and we need to harp at every game, need funds to aid in paying for this..etc...
Anyway, happy to help, I am really only available on saturdays, any other day is just coming down and turning around.

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[Jeanine McMichael]

Okay!! I'm glad to see the interest in what's happening. First I'm going to clarify a few items:

1. Greenville SC-011-D has the FGoTM for October 2012. This has been confirmed by the RC Debbie Pelletier Clark, and can be found in her monthly reports. This has been official since January 2012.

2. Coordinator Staff has the responsibility of securing game site. Yes, we can book Fitzpatricks for our game on Saturday. However, that is a drawback since it severely limits playing space. Staff is taking the time to see if there is a different venue site that can be found that will better suit our needs. Fitzpatricks is the fallback plan if all else fails. We are expecting 100 people (including our local domain attendance) for our feature game, and that will make us very crowded upstairs at Fitzpatricks.

3. Venues that will be played are up in the air. Eric has spoken with me directly, and is very interested in helping to plan as many different game options as possible, based on where the game will be held, and how much space will be available. See above post for the restrictions of a small site and why we are looking for larger if possible.

4. For the Atlanta FGoTM in December 2011, the general email lists lit up with people that were in town a day early, and were bored. Some of the staff met up with traveling players and did something for entertainment. This issue is what brought up the idea of Doc hosting the Garou event on our weekend. PLEASE BE CLEAR...the Garou game was offered to be on Friday night, at Fitzpatricks, and paid for privately. There was never an agreement that domain funds would provide site for a non-sanctioned event.

I appreciate the concerns, and encourage communication on this issue. I ask that if you have concerns, please ask as a question and allow us the chance to clear up any possible misunderstandings before making a blanket statement. I also encourage all who would like to participate to come and brainstorm with us on how we can WOW the SE during our Feature Game. Anyone who would like to have any type of input on the FGoTM is more than welcome to attend any meeting we hold.

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[Sean McLaughlin]

Obviously the house would be open for a friday game if needed. The only issue I have with a garou game would be we would be holding a troop one off style game for that event. I would prefer we used sanctioned games for that event. But that just might be my opinion.

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[michaellone]

Then don't worry about the Garou game, I will with draw it from the Featured game.

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[Jeanine McMichael]

Sean,
Please clarify your remarks about having a sanctioned game for our event. Is your concern for the games that are played at the location secured with domain funds? Or is your concern about what games are offered period during the weekend?

Doc had offered the Garou as a "something to do" option. Eric has offered to get Charlotte ST's for other venues to come and help if we had room to offer a multitude of options.

I want to get your take on the ST side so I know what to keep a lookout for, and so I can provide accurate direction when necessary.

Thanks!!
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[jasonb]

While I'm uncertain as to whether this still holds sway, I know that in one of my previous domains, we had a *huge*, 50+ person troupe Dark Ages MET game. In order to properly announce it at a sanctioned Cam game, we had to do so before we had a coordinator 'open' the event, because it was against the rules to discuss non-sanctioned games during Cam time or using Cam resources.


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[ericd]

I am absolutely Pro having other options.
My first concern is that we want to draw people.

There are currently more sanctioned venues than people can realistically play.

While I love the idea of playing Apocalypse and eagerly await the next game, I dont think it will draw solely because its not currently a sanctioned venue. But I am also amenable that if we want it, I am certainly up for playing in it. =)

I just want a number of game slots and then I can focus on working with Sean on stories-staff...etc...and we can all focus on advertising.

What we present should be put up to a vote of the domain, or decided by the committee.

I am glad that this has sparked a lot of conversation and getting people prepped for the FGotM.

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[jasonb]

Hrmm. How about this, as an idea? A mortals venue, with a one-shot or one-night plot (whose consequences could spin into Old World venues in town) and pre-written MC1 characters which people can then place their MC on. XP awarded either to your Mortal character or the other venue char of your choice, if you play a one-off character. Could do 'bennies' in the order of special Retainers written to be nifty by staff.

It's not something I've seen done before, and everyone can play a Mortal without much worry about approvals. One or two nifty retainers written with permission from JT as NPCs which could later be ghouled would be a neat bennie for people (nods to Lloyd for the original idea). And, it's an approved, OWOD venue, since most of our Domain is OWOD, and few have Requiem/etc characters. I'm all for having NWOD here, but I'd suggest that we keep most of our efforts centered around what our Domain primarily does.

If we're doing Frid/Sat gaming... how about Mortals Friday afternoon, Sabbat in the evening, Requiem saturday afternoon, Cam saturday evening. Also, if we're going to stage a Requiem game that isn't just transporting Charlotte's court for a night, we might also want to consider setting up a VSS and elections for a Requiem VST. I'd love to try Requiem again, but I don't know whether my commitment to the idea involves trips to Atlanta or Charlotte every few weeks.

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[ericd]

Mortals goes back to non-sanctioned venue.
So.. I dont think it will have a draw.

cam/anarch should have a solid draw
sabbat will have a limited draw but could surprise us.
Mage should actually have a decent draw from Charlotte, and I believe Savannah has a solid mage game, as well as charleston having a newer game, with a few long standing mage players.

I have some ideas I am planning on presenting to Sean, since he is officially our lead here. I was just trying to see if we officially had a number of venues in mind....

thanks

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[jasonb]

Mortals is non-sanctioned? But, we have an ARST-Mortals, sanctioned rules, etc... is it really non-sanctioned?

I mean, if necessary, the game could be run under the Vampire VSS, since mortals are low approval there anyway. I'm not permanently attached to the idea, but since I've got 2 or 3 mortal concepts, and I know a few people just in our small domain who have played or want to play mortals... I don't see how it's an *invalid* concept. Different, sure. Odd, perhaps. But randomly invalid? No, this concept *could* be easily done, sanctioned... and it even has a Regional staff member we could coordinate with. Would it be a draw, in and of itself? Likely not, but we were discussing 'Things to do so that out of towners don't get bored on Friday when they're already here', not 'Primary game draws'.

There might be better ideas, but we have sanctioned support staff for this one, so I can't say I agree that it's a non-sanctioned concept.

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[ericd]

I am not aware of any mortals venue, it would be Hunter the Vigil for the NWOD.
However they have an ARST mortals for news and cross venue stories. What the mortals would know...etc...

But no addendum, and as far as I know, no games.

And you can play a mortal in any venue. Most venues also have lesser templates to tinker with.

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